Compare Agamemnon, Hamlet and The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

Buddy,

I have trouble too...I meant, I am having trouble writing the thesis too. The person who can help you are: Jill D, Judy T, or Aslan. They've been here the longest so they know what they can say.

I contacted Jill on the story their eyes were watching god. you can ask her there. aslan will be on gradesaver on monday

thank you

no problem.

This assignment is too much pressure . . .

Tell me about it! The thesis statement is the hardest!

Hi guys, I need help with this right now. I was happy to see that you guys are discussing about exactly what I'm stuck at right now. This is confusing. Help?

What did you guys choose for your own essay and why?

Oh boy, I am stuck on this question as well i pretty much dont even know where to start on my thesis. Anyone have any suggestions, or ideas that you are willing to share kindly.

Thanks

Don't have any juju

hey! i just started the course & just like you guys i'm literally stuck, i chose the element hamartia.. the only problem i'm having is finding differences, in the course i'm currently writing the outline so i just need help starting it and then i can do the essay! plsplspls help me.. i've been stuck for days, email me at [email protected], i'd appreciate the help sosososos much.

Same here Alisha! I picked Hamartia, too. I need to find an element too! I don't think I can do it though. Email me at [email protected], I'd appreciate the help so much! :)

IM SO STUCK. this is sucks. i need help, anyone with new information on this course , maybe we can all work together. email me [email protected]

Its nice to see im not the only one who is/has had a hard time with this question. im having a hard time understanding it, i was so thankful when I saw on here that we were to choose an element of tragedy because before i knew that I had no idea where to even start!!

if anyone has successfully completed this question wants to shed some light on it that would be great.

I understand the hamartia of hamlet and Agamemnon but im not so sure about alfred prufrock, can anyone help me understand his character better?

Hi Is anyone here done with this already? Im stuck on on Prufrock trying to connect hamartia with Hamlet's and Agamemnon's. 

Im on Thesis part of ENG4UC unit 2 assessment

Hey has anyone completed this? And I thought were only suppose to write the outline and not an entire essay?

I am reading the same exact book/play too, AND I have to pick a theme. I'm not sure if I can help you guys. I'm sorry.

Oh GOD tell me about it! I'm stuck on writing the freaking ESSAY! I hate doing this assignment. I think I'm going to ask my teacher to give me a much easier topic to work on. This assignment SUCKS. S-U-C-K-S. YOU HEAR THAT SUCKS PART? YEAH I BET YOU IT SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS BUT MY TEACHER TOLD ME I HAVE TO DO THE SAME ASSIGNMENT AS EVERYONE ELSE! GOD I HATE THIS ASSIGNMENT I DON'T WANT TO WRITE A FREAKING ESSAY OKAY? EVERYONE WHO'S HAVING TROUBLE, JUST TELL THE FREAKING TEACHER OR TELL JILL D., ASLAN, OR JUDY T. BUT NOT THE JUDY T WE JUST HAD ANSWER ABOVE SHE'S NOT THE REAL JUDY T SHE'S JUST ANOTHER STUPID STUDENT TRYING TO GET INTO THAT FAT ACTION OF BEING THE HERO OR SOMETHING.

Sarah you write the essay for unit 7. 

It's not an essay, it's an essay outline.

I can help you with this, but I chose Agamemnon, Hamlet and John F. Kennedy’s Secret Society Speech.

One tragic element that can be observed in the three texts, is peripateia. The texts’ protagonists make a crucial action that changes the situation from seemingly secure to vulnerable. 

Be sure you include a discussion on how the text encourages an audience response (what does the audience feel/think about the events of the text).

If you need more info, e-mail me: [email protected]

The whole poem is very like a Hamlet soliloquy, where Hamlet tries to argue himself into taking action, calls himself coward, gives himself the lie, plucks his own beard, yet ends further from decisive action than he began. Prufrock himself is aware of the parallel: ‘No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be’, for Hamlet did at the eleventh hour, pull himself together and dare to disturb the universe.

The story of Agamemnon is also one of hate and doom and adulterous wrong. Agamemnon raped Clytemnestra and murdered her husband. He then married her, but later sacrificed their youngest daughter Iphegenia to gain favourable winds to take the Greek fleet to Troy. During his ten-year absence, Clytemnestra and her lover Aegistheus planned to murder Agamemnon on his return. He brought with him as concubine the ravished Trojan princess Cassandra. His wife, preparing him for a bath, put on him a bath-robe she had cunningly sewn to be virtually a straight-Jacket. Wearing this, he was as helpless as Sweeney Todd’s victims in his barber's chair (destined to become meat pies). She butchered him and buried him without honours. Thus the epigraph prepares us for the otherwise unexpected shift from Sweeney to Agamemnon at the end of the poem.

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Returning to biblical allusion, Prufrock sees himself as Lazarus, a character in hell, proposed in Luke 16 as a messenger warning mortals to change their ways. Fearful of rejection, of being misunderstood, Prufrock lies splayed on a screen, his nervous system illumined by a magic lantern. Unable to claim the tragic significance of Hamlet, Prufrock settles for Polonius, the fuddy-duddy court adviser who gets himself killed by lurking at the edge of the action. Dismayed by the effects of age, Prufrock imagines women on the beach tittering to each other, but not summoning him with their songs. In the greater scope, the overripe bachelor is merely a symptom. Too long enthralled by fancy, the modern world, like Prufrock, has lingered in romanticism and self-indulgent frolic until the realities of the modern world threaten to consume it.

Eliot loads the poem with mounting menace. End words are predominantly monosyllabic, producing a stabbing series of moon/place/above/gate and wood/aloud/fall/shroud. Through enjambment, the ten stanzas present a running account of Sweeney threatened by a "gambit," the trickery of bar girls. The poet shifts to dark humor by depicting Orion and his dog, the prophetic constellation that takes the shape of the stalking hunter. The point of the plotting is unclear. Like Agamemnon, the Greek king whose murder is recounted in the epigraph, Sweeney is sappily drunk and unaware of any sinister intent, whether to rob him or do bodily harm. Amid the omens of Death and the raven, he merits no pity from nature, as depicted by wisteria vines trailing around the framed face of an observer and the songs of nightingales, or from divine intervention, as implied by "The Convent of the Sacred Heart."

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